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Measure for Measure is among the most passionately discussed of Shakespeare’s plays. In it, a duke temporarily removes himself from governing his city-state, deputizing a member of his administration, Angelo, to enforce the laws more rigorously. Angelo chooses as his first victim Claudio, condemning him to death because he impregnated Juliet before their marriage.Claudio’sMeasure for Measure is among the most passionately discussed of Shakespeare’s plays. In it, a duke temporarily removes himself from governing his city-state, deputizing a member of his administration, Angelo, to enforce the laws more rigorously. Angelo chooses as his first victim Claudio, condemning him to death because he impregnated Juliet before their marriage.Claudio’s sister Isabella, who is entering a convent, pleads for her brother’s life. Angelo attempts to extort sex from her, but Isabella preserves her chastity. The duke, in disguise, eavesdrops as she tells her brother about Angelo’s behavior, then offers to ally himself with her against Angelo....

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دقة بدقة Reviews

  • PirateSteve
    2018-11-20 11:22

    Shakespeare was pushing the boundaries with Measure for Measure.A royal proclamation under Elizabeth 1st in 1559 strictly prohibited stage plays from dealing with matters of religion or current public issues of governance. In the early years of the 1600's London was in a dilemma. The translation of the King James Version Bible had just begun yet lawlessness run rampant in London. Within sight of Shakespeare's own Globe Theater were houses of prostitution. Mr.Shakespeare had an idea for a play but that ol proclamation was a problem. So to keep himself out of trouble he simply changed the setting of this play from London to Vienna. There were no English proclamations about stage plays concerning Vienna Vice. Within this story the majority of Vienna's residents have little or no respect for the law. Especially those laws concerning fornication. One reason for this is the Duke of Vienna's unwillingness to enforce these laws. He doesn't want citizens to think of him as an overbearing ruler. But the Duke does realize his citizens of sin need reining in. So he devises a plan: He informs those in authority under him that he must leave Vienna on a diplomatic mission. Then he instructs them that in his absence they are to enforce the city laws. Instead of actually leaving the city the Duke disguises himself under the cloak of friar in order to watch the interim authorities in action. Shakespeare did a great job here writing enough character hypocrisy to shock the reader and at other times using a very humorous dialogue. By the plays conclusion the Duke is forced to man up, revealing himself from under disguise and issuing biblical justice. So yes,Shakespeare knew very well that patrons attending this play had to pass by brothels in order to get there. William Shakespeare was a rebel.Matthew 7 New King James Version 1)“Judge not, that you be not judged. 2) For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3) And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?" page 92the Duke transfers power to Angelo "So fare you well. To th'hopeful execution do I leave you Of your commissions.Your scope is as mine ownSo to enforce or qualify the laws as to your soul seems good." page 93 Lucio speaking with other Gentleman of the transfer of power and it's hypocrisy,even Shakespeare picks on pirates Lucio:"Thou conclud'st like the sanctimonious pirate that went to sea with the ten commandments, but scraped one out of the table."1 Gentleman:"Thou shalt not steal?" "There's not a soldier of us all that, in the thanksgiving before meat, do relish the petition well that prays for peace."page 95/96 Mistress Overdone and Gentleman Mistress Overdone: "Well, well; there's one yonder arrested and carried to prison was worth five thousand of you all." Gentleman 1: 'Claudio to prison? Tis not so." Mistress Overdone:'I saw him arrested, saw him carried away, and, which is more, within these three days his head to be chopped off !""I am sure of it: and it is for getting Madam Julietta with child." page 125/126 narrationAngelo speaks his thoughts on his lust for Isabella"What's this? What's this? Is this her fault, or mine? The tempter or the tempted, who sins most, ha?Not she: nor doth she tempt: but it is I." "Dost thou desire her foully, for those things that make her good? Most dangerous is that temptation that doth goad us on to sin..." "Never could the strumpet with all her double vigour, art and nature, once stir my temper; but this virtuous maid subdues me quite." page 135/136 Angelo blackmailing Isabella(novitiate training Nun), Claudio's sister Angelo; "Plainly conceive, I love you." Isabella: "My brother did love Juliet and you tell me that he shall die for't."Angelo; "He shall not, if you give me love."'Believe me on mine honour, my words express my purpose." Isabella: "Ha! Little honour to be much believed ..." "I will proclaim thee, Angelo, look for't. Sign me a present pardon for my brother, or with an outstretched throat I'll tell the world aloud what man thou art."Angelo: "Who will believe thee, Isabel? My unsoiled name, th'austereness of my life, My vouch against you, and my place i'th'state ..." "Lay by all nicety and prolixious blushes by yielding up thy body to my will, or else he must not only die the death but thy unkindness shall his death draw out ..." page 147 "Nay, if there be no remedy for it we shall have all the world drink brown and white bastard." This comment was really of no significance, I just wanted to know what Shakespeare meant. I did have some idea due to I sometimes buy a Fat Bastard brand of wine for guest, because I like the name. I don't drink wine. Shakespeare simply meant a brown or white sweet wine ... He liked the name as well. page 196 The Duke of Vienna, no longer disguised as a friar, begins his claim for justice. "The very mercy of the law cries out ... An Angelo for Claudio, death for death ... and measure still for measure." "We do condemn thee to the very block where Claudio stooped to death,"

  • BillKerwin
    2018-11-18 09:18

    Why is it that I love the universe of this "dark" comedy so much, and why does it strike me as not really being so "dark" after all? Could it be because it is presided over by a "god"--the young Duke--who is priggish, diffident and comically vain (when his reputation is attacked by Lucio), and yet is unfailingly just and honorably susceptible to the attractions of female goodness and beauty? Is it because the "villain"--Angelo--is so pathetic and small that one never seriously expects he will win? Or is it because this world is--in spite of all its lust and hypocrisy--an absurd, surprisingly malleable universe in which even a base rogue like Barnadine can simply refuse to be executed, and then be allowed to survive? All of these contribute to my great love for the play, but above all, I admire the character of Isabella, who is virtuous and brave and filled with mercy even for the vile hypocrite who wronged her. She leaves me with the feeling that--grubby and fallen though it may be--this is a world worth living for.

  • James
    2018-12-09 11:17

    Book Review3 out of 5 stars to Measure for Measure, written in 1603 by William Shakespeare. When I think of reasons why people find Shakespeare difficult to read or understand, this is the play that most comes to mind. It's a good play. But you won't get much from it on a single read. And if you're not a fan of classic literature, or easily able to understand language differences from 400 years ago, it will be even harder to digest this one. Part of me believes this isn't all that different from some of the popular ones, but because it's often less read, copied or produced on TV or Film, it's much less understood. The plot is clever: a man gives up his position of power to the next in command and watches from afar to see what happens. He's got personal reasons for abandoning his role, but he also doesn't quite leave it. You're left with a quandary both in plot and in persona, which makes it harder to easily grasp on the first round. I basically understood it but didn't find it all that appealing. On a second read, it was better. I may go for a third this summer. Who's in??? LOLAbout MeFor those new to me or my reviews... here's the scoop: I read A LOT. I write A LOT. And now I blog A LOT. First the book review goes on Goodreads, and then I send it on over to my WordPress blog at https://thisismytruthnow.com, where you'll also find TV & Film reviews, the revealing and introspective 365 Daily Challenge and lots of blogging about places I've visited all over the world. And you can find all my social media profiles to get the details on the who/what/when/where and my pictures. Leave a comment and let me know what you think. Vote in the poll and ratings. Thanks for stopping by.

  • Bookdragon Sean
    2018-12-06 10:17

    I struggled with this, big time. But, when I read it for a second time I began to see how it all fit together. Then I went for a third attempt, and saw something else entirely. There are always different layers of meaning in Shakespeare’s work, and it’s always quite hard to make a solid interpretation. Someone out there will argue against what you are saying, and rightly so because who is to say where the true meaning of a piece of literature is? Not me, that’s for sure, all I can do is try to form my own lasting impression of a work. And the impression this formed on me was quite solid, to my mind. The evidence resides in the title of the play and its origins. Measure for Measure implies that what you give, you take back. If you exact a judgement or a sense of justice then you, too, are susceptible to that same force. Indeed, this quote from the bible evidently inspired this remarkable play:"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with that judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure you meet, it shall be measured unto you again." (Matthew Chapter 7: Verse2)Angelo is given the Duke of Vienna’s political powers whilst he supposedly goes on holiday to Poland. He immediately attempts to restore order to the city. But, he becomes a hypocrite: he is too worthy of judgement.

  • Hailey (HaileyinBookland)
    2018-11-17 12:19

    Read for schoolNot my favourite, but still enjoyable!

  • Trevor
    2018-11-20 10:05

    This is a much more troubling play than a comedy really has a right to be. To be honest, it is very hard to call this play a ‘comedy’ – unlike Much Ado or Twelfth Night, the laughs don’t exactly come thick and fast. In general outline this could easily enough be considered a romantic comedy – girl in trouble, boy cleverly rescues girl, girl marries boy; a perfect description of the genre? But the central story to this one is a very strange idea for a comedy.Here’s the main story-line with the incidental stories and characters cut. There is a Duke of Vienna that seems to be well loved by his people, though mostly because he is fairly hopeless at keeping the moral order of the place. He knows things have got to get cleaned up, but also seems to know he isn’t really the man to do it. There is a young man he plans to allow to fix things, Angelo, who, despite his show of goodness, the Duke knows isn’t nearly as virtuous as he makes himself out to be. Nevertheless, the Duke believes he probably has what it would take to get rid of most of the immorality that’s going on about the place (read, brothels and sexual excesses). The Duke says he is off to Poland, but instead he gets dressed up as a Friar so he can watch just what Angelo does in his absence.The first thing Angelo does is find someone to use to punish as an example of immorality. There is a law, never previously applied, that if you get someone pregnant prior to marriage then you forfeit your life. Claudio and Juliet have (as Iago would have it) made the two-backed beast and so Angelo sentences Claudio to death in the morning (everything is to happen quickly in this play – even if nothing ever seems to prove to).Claudio has a sister, Isabella – she is a nun in training and when told of her brother’s fate goes around to see if she can convince Angelo not to kill Claudio. Angelo at first is unmoved by Isabella, but soon decides this innocent virgin is a temptation too great to be resisted. He tells her that he will save her brother’s life if she agrees to sleep with him. She refuses – as all good nuns should – and goes to tell her brother that he had better prepare for his forthcoming trip to meet his maker.At first Claudio is suitably revolted by Angelo’s suggestion, but then the full implications of Isabella’s refusal to sleep with Angelo (that is, his own death) suddenly makes him think that in the balance of things – well… Isabella sees where all this is headed and is outraged and tells him again to prepare to die.But the Duke, dressed as the Friar, has been listening to all this and decides it is time to come to the rescue – but not in the most obvious way, but saying ‘tat-tah! It was me all the time’. Rather, he decides to set up a complicated and, well, frankly dangerous set of schemes in order to trick Angelo. It turns out that Angelo had been engaged to a woman a couple of years before and was about to marry her when her brother was lost at sea and her family wealth went down with him. Angelo promptly broke off the engagement. The Duke decides to get this woman to sleep with Angelo in Isabella’s stead – so, Isabella tells Angelo she will sleep with him as long as it is in the dark and in total silence. The switch is made and Isabella’s virtue is secured by the Duke and all’s well. Except Angelo goes back on his word about Claudio – on the very reasonable assumption that although Claudio may well be happy as Larry to not be dead for the time being, sooner or later he is going to want to be revenged on Angelo for his shagging his sister and threatening to kill him. Angelo demands Claudio’s immediate execution. The Duke is less than impressed and so needs to do some fancy footwork to save Claudio’s life and also supply a decapitated head for Angelo.The Duke then announces he is on his way home – and arrives at the town saying that if anyone has any complaints they should come forward with them then and there – he has set up Isabella to denounce Angelo and say what happened in front of everyone, which she does. Angelo has a very uncomfortable time of it, but appears to have the Duke’s unequivocal support. But things turn bad for him when his ex turns up and says she was the one who had slept with him, and not Isabella – things become even worse when it turns out that the Duke and the Friar are one and the same people. Angelo confesses and pleads to be killed. The Duke first forces him to marry your woman he was supposed to have married years before and then says he is to be executed. The new bride isn’t exactly over the moon at the prospect of becoming a widow quite so soon – and pleads first with the Duke and then with Isabella to help her convince the Duke to save Angelo’s life.Isabella kneels down – now, look, I’m a complete sucker generally for unreasonable forgiveness (the fact it is the main lesson of Christianity is also probably part of the reason it is generally ignored by most Christians, but the whole ‘love thine enemy’ idea – particularly when such forgiveness seems utterly impossible and improbable – almost always leaves me on the verge of tears). The Duke then pulls Claudio out of the hat and asks Isabella to marry him – which she agrees to do. They all live happily ever after.I guess now you can see why it is hard to really call this infinitely complicated plot a comedy. The other thing is that a lot of the ‘morality’ of this play is really very questionable and requires much more thought than is reasonable for a comedy. And not just the morally questionable idea of getting Angelo to sleep with is ex as a way to confound his plans to sleep with Isabella – what was his ex thinking? How would anyone feel at being asked to do such a thing – you’ll get to sleep with the guy you love, but he will think he is sleeping with someone else. Yuck. But the final forgiveness of Angelo for what was his intended rape and murder seems, well, rather mild for what might otherwise be considered a couple of rather serious and career-limiting mistakes.Like I said, I really do get choked up when someone does an act of infinite forgiveness – as Isabella does in the final scene, except even this scene is very odd. I’m going to quote the speech she gives in full:Duke: He dies for Claudio’s death.Isabella: (kneeling) Most bounteous sir,Look, if it please you, on this man condemned As if my brother lived. I partly thinkA due sincerity governed his deedsTill he did look on me. Since it is so, Let him not die. My brother had but justice,In that he did the thing for which he died.For Angelo,His act did not o’ertake his bad intent, And must be buried but as an intentThat perished by the way. Thoughts are no subjects, Intents but merely thoughts.Which is to say – Angelo was a fine and upstanding young man until he looked at me and then, well, how could he help but be driven mad with lust? I’m a bit of a babe in this habit, you know. We fooled him, so he didn’t do what he thought he was going to do – sleeping with this woman rather than me. We can only be condemned for what we do, not what we intend to do, so you can’t kill him on that score. All that is left is that he killed my brother, but then, look, my brother had broken the law, so had it coming anyway. I really don’t think I would like to have Isabella as my sister, to be honest.This is a remarkable play. And although I think the plot is so convoluted that there are times it really does strain to keep itself together, the moral dilemmas of some of the characters really do bring us up short at times. Angelo’s self-torment – quite the opposite of what everyone else sees of him – is damned interesting.There has been lots of talk in the press lately about the slut walks – I’m quite in favour of them (I’ve a preference for dealing with complex issues with both humour and irony if at all possible). However, if anything would prove to that Canadian policeman that ‘if women don’t want to be violated they shouldn’t dress like sluts’ is utter bollocks it is Angelo lusting after Isabella because she is tempting him with her utter purity.There aren’t really any characters in this play that you can like, either. The Duke seems to have done that favourite Machiavellian ploy of leaving someone unpopular to do the dirty work and then, in exposing his dirty work, gained the benefit of the dirty work while avoiding all of the blame. Although we might well today disagree with Isabella’s view that her hymen is worth more than her brother’s life – you do need to remember she believed the choice wasn’t just her virginity, but her immortal soul. Nevertheless, she isn’t all that much more forgiving of her brother than Angelo is and so her moral strictness is frankly scary.Even with all that said, this is an endlessly fascinating play. One that raises lots of questions and presents answers from the characters words and actions that only prompt further thought.

  • Darwin8u
    2018-12-15 12:12

    “Alack, when once our grace we have forgot,Nothing goes right; we would and we would not.” ― William Shakespeare, Measure for Measure Let me start this review with a personal bias -- I PREFER it when politicos pretend to be priests, rather than when priests pretend to be politicos. Apparently, Shakespeare is on MY side. "Measure for Measure" is one of Shakespeare's "dark comedies" or "problem plays" like Troilus and Cressida and All's Well That Ends Well. It is certainly dark. It could easily be a funky beer or dark chocolate xocolātl. It feels like Shakespeare has reached that point of his career/life where he just doesn't give an F. He is all elbows and any need to surrender to societal platitudes and moral veneer seem to be fully expunged. He is all about tearing off the scabs of hypocrisy, and popping the boils of false prophets. But as with most of Shakespeare's best, nothing is direct, everything is oblique. Truth comes at you sideways, and even when you catch it, you have to be careful it isn't going to explode.Oh, oh, also, the names. Mistress Overdone? Pompey Bum? So perfect. There is a line I love from Philip K Dick that says, “It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.” Shakespeare seems to agree, but it seems the most sane person in "Measure for Measure", the one most adjusted to Shakespeare's Vienna is Barnardine, the ever drunk. So, perhaps, we can re-write PKD's quote (at least remeasure it to read: It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to get sloppy-ass drunk"). In a world where everyone seems to be concerned about death, justice, confinement, authority, sexuality, Barnardine, like Honeybadger, just don't give a shit. I feel you Barnardine. I feel you. Anyway, the play is unsettling. Shakespeare even makes the play's "happy ending" seem a bit dirty, like climbing out of a polluted pool. There isn't a moist towelette large enough to clean the soiled linen of Vienna. This is a play that, with the right characters, the right amount of alcohol could possibly start a riot. It pushes everyone right to the end and then yanks you back, not to "save you" but to keep the audience unbalanced. While it shares little directly with Crime and Punishment (except for, well, a crime and a punishment), I did keep getting images of Dostoevsky in my head while reading this. Shakespeare isn't as serious as Dostoevsky, but with an absurdity and dark, gallows humor, Shakespeare's Measure for Measure seems just as dangerous as anything Dostoevsky later delivered.So, perhaps, I'll end with another Dostoevsky thought. Like Hesse's warning to readers of Dostoevsky, I too caution that looking too deep into Shakespeare's problem plays gives the reader both a taste of Western Civilization's decadent decline, and a "glimpse into the havoc". Bottoms up Biatches!Favorite lines:― “I had as lief have the foppery of freedom as the morality of imprisonment.” (Act 1, Scene 2).― “Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt.” (Act 1, Scene 4).― “But man, proud man,Dress'd in a little brief authority,Most ignorant of what he's most assur'd—His glassy essence—like an angry apePlays such fantastic tricks before high heavenAs makes the angels weep; who, with our spleens,Would all themselves laugh mortal.” (Act 2, Scene 2).― “The miserable have no other medicineBut only hope:I have hope to live, and am prepared to die.” (Act 3, Scene 1).― “To sue to live, I find I seek to die; And, seeking death, find life.” (Act 3, Scene 1).

  • David Sarkies
    2018-11-21 16:13

    A Tale of Forgiveness30 October 2016 When I was recently in London I picked up a box set at The Globe containing a collection of plays that they had filmed and kindly decided to release. As such when I sat down on the train and began reading this play I half expected to be able to then go and watch it at a later date. As it turned out one of the plays that wasn’t included in the box set was this one, which was a real shame because when I was at the Globe I did see a number of plays that weren’t included that could be purchased alongside it (which I had done with Merchant of Venice). Before I continue I probably should make mention that The Globe is one of the most uncomfortable, and annoying, theatres that I have had the displeasure of visiting. When the seat is labled as ‘restricted view’ the view is actually really restricted (I was sitting in front of a pillar). I’m not going to go as far and say that it is ‘the most uncomfortable’ theatre since there are some in Greece (such as the Theatre of Dionysius, though that isn’t actually used, but the Theatre of Herod Antipas just down the road is) that are probably somewhat more uncomfortable. Anyway, you are no doubt going to hear me harp on about how uncomfortable the Globe is again, which does surprise me a little because they still seem to regularly sell out their plays. I ended up waiting too long to purchase tickets for A Midsummers Night Dream (namely twelve weeks before the show I wanted to see) only to discover that there were no longer any available. That meant that I had to put up with just seeing Macbeth, which really isn’t one of my favourite Shakespearian plays, but still, it was at the Globe, and it was Shakespeare done well, so I’m not complaining about that (though I am complaining about the hard seats and the pillar that was in front of me). Enough of my experience at the Globe because I’m sure you are more interested in my take on this play. The problem is that like many of the other plays that I have read I would have really liked to have seen this one performed (even if it is on screen) because it actually seems to be one of those really cool plays. One of the things that I particularly like about the version that I read is that it contains essays on the play itself at the end, and these essays can be really engaging. Anyway, the thing about this play is that there are so many Christian allegories in it that it doesn’t actually seem to be very Shakespearian. For instance we have the main plot of the Duke going on a holiday and handing over the rulership of the city to Angelo, who then begins to rule it with an iron fist. We also have the concept of forgiveness permeating throughout the play, and not the form of forgiveness that we see in the Tempest where Prospero decides that he has had enough fun with his captives, reveals himself, and says all is forgiven, but rather more Christlike forgiveness where the guilty party is forgiven without any form of revenge being taken out, and not deserving it one bit. You have probably guessed the story already, but as I mentioned before the Duke decides to go on a holiday (well, not really, but that is what he tells everybody) and appoints Angelo in his place. However Angelo is a bit of a purist and realises that Vienna is a pretty sleazy place and decides to clean it up a bit (actually a lot). The thing is that it isn’t as if the sleaze is permitted, it’s illegal, it’s just that nobody particularly cares (or at least the Duke didn’t). So, he basically decides that since the laws are on the books they should be enforced, which creates a few problems because Claudio, another protagonist in the play, has got his girlfriend pregant, which is a big no-no, and he has him arrested and sentanced to death. Mind you, it isn’t as if Angelo is all that pure either, namely because he ended up dumping his fiancee because her dowery was lost when the ship that was carrying it sunk in a storm. The parable of Jesus that automatically comes to mind is the parable of the vineyard where the master goes off on a journey and leaves his plantation to his servants, and the servants basically run amok causing all sorts of problems. However this is slightly different in that the duke doesn’t actually go anywhere, he just disguises himself as a monk and watches to see what happens. Also, Angelo isn’t actually running amok, but rather he is trying to clean the place up. However there is a little catch – it seems as if there is actually an ulterior motive – get rid of Claudio and thus marry Isabella. This was the plot in the original story. However they decide to get around the problem by executing a pirate instead and passing it off as Claudio, and then having Angelo’s old flame pretend to be Isabella. In fact now that I think about it it seems as if Angelo is playing the hypocrite in this play – while he is insisting that everybody live moral and upstanding lives, he himself is doing the complete opposite. Sure, maybe it was well within the law to execute Claudio for being a little randy (and it is interesting that it is the man that is being punished here as opposed to the woman because it seems that in our day and age the holier than thou lot seem to want to punish the women), but the fact is that Angelo wants the opportunity to be randy himself, and almost gets himself into no end of trouble in doing so. The thing is that he effectively gets away with it in the end, which some have found to be a little unsatisfactory – here we have a guy that is pretty much throwing his weight around and executing people for minor indiscretions and effectively getting away with it, while commiting those same indiscretions himself. In the end I guess it is one of those plays that we need to sit down and chew on a bit, and one that I would like to visit again in the not too distance future, though this time I would like to see it performed as opposed to reading it in a book. At least there is a modern, non-BBC version on Youtube (I really don’t like the BBC performances – they were so dry, dull, and completely lacked any life).

  • M.
    2018-12-11 11:23

    Bugüne kadar okuduklarım arasında en akıcı ve keyifli bulduğum Shakespeare tiyatrolarından birisiydi. Elbette oynanmak için yazılmış, okunmak için değil. Yine de okuması pek çok Shakespeare tiyatrosuna göre kolaydı yani zihinde canlandırması kolaydı."Hem davet eder hem de ondan korkarsın, İkide bir uyanır, yaşıyor muyum diye sorarsın. Sen kendine yetmezsin, çünkü toprağın ürettiği binlerce tahıldan yalnızca bir zerresin. Mutlu değilsin, çünkü sende olmayana kavuşmak içinDidinir durursun.Güvenilir değilsin, çünkü gökteki ayın durumuna göre,Değişir, garip hareketlerde bulunursun.Zengin olduğunu sansan da yoksulsun,Çünkü sırtı altın ve gümüşle dolu bir eşek gibiBu ağır yükü taşıyarak götürsen bile,Ölüm o yükü boşaltmasını iyi bilir"Bunun gibi metinlerinde taşıdığı derin felsefe ile insanı büyüler.

  • Wanda
    2018-11-18 15:14

    The last of Shakespeare’s comedies and I get the distinct impression that he was already done with that genre and somehow got convinced to do “just one more.” As part of my goal to see all of Shakespeare’s plays performed, I attended a screening of Measure for Measure, filmed in Stratford, England. If you struggle with Shakespeare, I can’t recommend highly enough that you see performances of his works, rather than try to read them. In this production, I appreciated how well they used the stage, the scenery, costumes, dance, and music. The actor who played Elbow and Barnardine was shaped like a cannonball, but was remarkably light on his feet and extremely agile. At one point, he amazed the audience by tumbling across the stage (as Elbow). The actor who played the Duke took some cues from John Cleese, who he reminded me forcibly of while “blessing” people and reciting religious invocations while pretending to be a friar.Why do I think that Shakespeare was done with comedies? Well, the ending is happy, as required, but it felt artificial and contrived. The marriage between the Duke and Isabella just feels wrong—what happened to her strong religious vocation? Same issue with the marriage of Angelo & Mariana. Why would an eligible woman want to marry a man who rejected her when her dowry went missing and was so cold and unfeeling? Why on earth would she want to sleep with him, fooling him into thinking that she is Isabella? And yet, she happily complies with the Duke/Friar’s subterfuge and then willingly marries the man. But the part of the play that resonated the most strongly with me was the point where Angelo has tried to make a bargain with Isabella, her virginity for the life of her brother. When she threatens to reveal his true nature to the world, he turns to her and says:“Who will believe thee, Isabel? My unsoil’d name, th’ austereness of my life, My vouch against you, and my place i’ th’ state, Will so your accusation overweight, That you shall stifle in your own report, And smell of calumny.”A cold shiver went down my back, and I couldn’t help but see Jian Ghomeshi in my mind’s eye, telling the women who he punched and mistreated, “I’m a celebrity. Do you think that anyone will believe you?” My God, this play was first performed at court in 1604 and here we are in 2016, and men are still saying this to the women whom they abuse! Its still “he said, she said” even in courts of law, as we continue to watch men get away with these crimes.Anyone who thinks that Shakespeare is out of date hasn’t ever attended his plays. He deals with universal human issues that everyone can identify with.

  • Melora
    2018-12-07 12:21

    Wow. Only Shakespeare could take such an unlikeable bunch of characters and implausible plot and create such an enjoyable play, though a fair lot of the fascination is of the “train wreck” variety – desire to see Angelo get his “just” desserts, amazement at the Duke's stupidity, and disappointment at Isabella's priorities. The scene I really missed was the one where the oh-so-holy Isabella asks Mariana to “fill in” for her with Angelo in order to save Isabella's brother. That was a request that took some gall! I found the concluding “trial” scene rather unsatisfactory, but there are some really beautiful speeches here. I read this in the Folger edition, which has decent size print and fine facing explanatory notes, and listened to the Archangel recording, which is excellent and really brought the play vividly to life.

  • Alp Turgut
    2018-12-09 15:05

    Shakespeare'in diğer komedyalarına kıyasla daha ciddi bir tona sahip olduğu için tragikomedya olarak tanımlanabilecek "Measure for Measure / Kısasa Kısas", içinde birçok ahlaksal konuyu barındıran eleştirel alt metniyle oldukça başarılı bir eser. İnsan erdemliliği üzerine düşündürücü öğeler okuma şansı bulduğumuz oyunun cinsellik ve bekaret üzerine olan yenilikçi tutumu hem Shakespeare oyunları açısından hem de zamanının şartlarına göre fazlasıyla önem taşıyor. Öte yandan, zaman zaman İncil'le paralellik gösteren eserde insanların adalete olan tek taraflı bakış açısına da yakından bakma şansı buluyoruz. Kesinlikle okunması gereken Shakespeare oyunları arasında.07.06.2015İstanbul, TürkiyeAlp Turgut

  • Jeannette Nikolova
    2018-12-13 08:16

    2015 Reading Challenge: A Book You Were Supposed to Read in High School But Didn'tI honestly don't have an explaination for this one. The characters didn't sit well with me. The dilemma about the brother's life(who was after all guilty), and the sistet's virtue annoyed me greatly, as I think that crimes deserve punishment. Also, whatever comic element there was in this, it was lost on me. I didn't find anything in "Measure for Measure" funny. All of the character were too flawed to be fun or in any way pleasant.

  • Aifos
    2018-11-20 11:09

    Fast to read and very entertaining. Really excited to discuss this one in class!I have conflicting feelings about the Duke, honestly I think he is as bad as Angelo, even though he thinks himself above anyone else. The Duke simply didn't want to dirty his hands by tainting his otherwise "clean" reputation. So Angelo was put in charge. Angelo is a young, inexperienced man, who is very cold, detached from emotions and "virtuous" -or so did Shakespeare wants us to believe... I don't think he is blameless, after all he blackmailed Isabella in the most horrible of ways. But still, I think his punishment was unfitting. I supposed Lucio's and Angelo's punishments were considered fitting at the time Measure for Measure was written, nowadays we'd see Lucio's crime as non existing, for he in fact didn't do anything wrong, and he was sentenced to marry someone he had impregnated,to be whipped and hanged afterwards. In my view his punishment should be to indeed marry the poor woman he had slept with, but what would be the point in marrying her and then dying?Oh Shakespeare.

  • Luís C.
    2018-11-19 10:23

    Lisbon Book-Fair 2017.

  • Brad
    2018-12-15 11:28

    Me: Is this the most important Shakespeare play in our now?I: That's a bit of a leap, doesn't it? His histories are such powerful studies of leadership and war -- which seem pretty damn timely -- and what about his tragedies? Caesar? Hamlet? Titus? The Scottish Play (sorry, I'm performing Shakespeare at the moment)? Coriolanus? And the rest? They all seem pretty fucking timely.Me: Okay. Fair ...I: But?Me: But ... the problem plays. Are they less timely? Isn't the very nature of the problem play a millennial-style concern? Are we about tragedies anymore? Or are we about problems? I mean ... Measure for Measure, just look at the ambiguity, at what Vincentio is doing and how he's doing it.I: Fair point.Me: Is there a more interesting look at how power interacts with convention than Measure for Measure.I: Whoa!Me: "Whoa!" what? I: I didn't even imagine that until you said it.Me: Really?I: Ha! No. I hadn't thought of that. I had thought about ethics, of course. I'd thought about the weight between life and sexual violation, about what it meant then and what it means now, but now about power and convention.Me: And the sexuality you thought of wasn't enough to raise this play up?I: But the tragedies are ... well .. tragic.Me: I find the power of Measure for Measure to be in the lack of tragedy. It's in the process (does that make sense?) rather than the product. The tragedies are all in the product, it seems to me (well ... not really. But they are reduced to that too often), but the problem plays, in particular Measure for Measure, are all about process and ignored because of a lack of bloody product. I: Perhaps.Me: Okay, so let me ask you what is more compelling.I: Go.Me: A deeply wounded Prince suffering from deaths in the family and a loss of power who vacillates between suicide and self-destruction or a chaste near-Nun embroiled in a plot to expose an inveterate sexual predator to the greater good.I: Both.Me: Fuck off. True, but fuck off.I: They are both amazing.Me: No argument. But what matters more to our 2017 now?I: The Nun.Me: Really?I: I think so. Maybe.Me: Then I will rest my case.

  • Xueting
    2018-11-16 10:31

    Probably my favourite Shakespeare I have read so far!!Really quite originally explores the very traditional issues of justice and equality, showing how no one's completely free from 'sinful' desires and temptations. Lord Angelo's terrible! Isabella's admirable! The innuendos laughable! A comedy without romance carrying the storyline... though I thought there finally won't be any unrealistic crazy romances that drastically end the play in a marriage, in the end there were still more than one of such crazy marriages... That disappointing and perplexing ending lowered a potentially 5-star read to 4 stars for me!! I didn't like how the promising build-up of strong characters arguing passionately for justice (i.e. Isabella) crumbles into silence in the end, and some characters just seriously confuse me in what they really think about justice and their intentions (i.e. the aghkjhfgl DUKE). It's all quite a mess in the end, which hurts not only the characterisation but also the big issue about justice it so cleverly set up in a plot - is justice all an act for the powerful to deceptively but emptily gain even more power and respect?

  • Terence
    2018-11-15 11:09

    Measure for Measure, as the title suggests, is all about weighing out appropriate portions – of love, of mercy, of justice. The plot is simple enough. The Duke of Vienna, concerned that his people have thrown off restraint and have sunk too far into liberty, leaves the city in the hands of Angelo, a man notorious for his strictness and inhuman discipline. As Lucio observes in two instances (once to Isabella and again to the Duke):“…Upon his place,Governs Lord Angelo; a man whose bloodIs very snow-broth; one who never feelsThe wanton stings and motions of the sense,But doth rebate and blunt his natural edgesWith profits of the mind, study, and fast.”And“Some report a sea-maid spawned him; some, that he was begot between two stock-fishes. But it is certain that when he makes water his urine is congealed ice; that I know to be true: and he is a motion generative; that’s infallible.” (Act 1, scene 4; Act 3, scene 2, respectively)In the meantime, the Duke disguises himself as a humble friar to observe what transpires.Angelo, true to form, imprisons and condemns Claudio for lechery – he has got with child his fiancée Julietta. Isabella, Claudio’s sister, a woman who plans to enter a nunnery, importunes Angelo for mercy. Angelo refuses unless she sleeps with him (and even then he plans to kill Claudio; as Angelo says: “He should have lived, / Save that his riotous youth, with dangerous sense, / Might in times to come have ta’en revenge, / By so receiving a dishonor’d life / With ransom of such shame”).At this point, the Duke (in his guise as friar) steps in and devises a plan whereby Isabella will appear to submit, but in her stead will step Mariana, Angelo’s spurned fiancée, who still loves him (for some reason; you’re reminded of Helena’s inexplicable love for Bertram from All’s Well That Ends Well). The bed-trick succeeds and Angelo is hoist on his own petard. The Duke pardons him and Claudio, and both men marry their women. Lucio (in a subplot) is forced to marry a prostitute whom he got pregnant (in punishment for lese majesté), and the Duke proposes to Isabella:“… Dear Isabel,I have a motion which imports your good;Whereto if you’ll a willing ear incline,What’s mine is yours and what is yours is mine.” (Act 5, scene 1)Isabella’s reply (wholly nonverbal) depends upon how the play is staged: Does she accept? Does she decline? Is she left standing in confusion, as some productions have played?And, again paralleling All’s Well, it’s an open question as to what the future holds for these couples as only one is a mutual love match (maybe two, if you accept Isabella falling for the Duke).Though he gets away with rape and sexual harassment, I think Angelo is the most interesting character in the play. His unswerving commitment to the abstract ideal of justice comes face to face with the reality of his own, human nature and he finds that it’s not so easy to be a paragon of the law:“From thee, even from they virtue!What’s this, what’s this? Is this her fault or mine?The tempter or the tempted, who sins most?Ha!Not she: nor doth she tempt: but it is IThat, lying by the violet in the sun,Do as the carrion does, not as the flower,Corrupt with virtuous season. Can it beThat modesty may more betray our senseThan woman’s lightness? Having waste ground enough,Shall we desire to raze the sanctuaryAnd pitch our evils there? O, let her brother live!Thieves for their robbery have authorityWhen judges steal themselves. What, do I love her,That I desire to hear her speak again,And feast upon her eyes? What is’t I dream on?O cunning enemy, that, to catch a saint,With saints dost bait thy hook! Most dangerousIs that temptation that doth goad us onTo sin in loving virtue: never could the strumpet,With all her double vigor, art and nature,Once stir my temper; but this virtuous maidSubdues me quite. Ever till now,When men were fond, I smiled and wonder’d how.” (Act 2, scene 3)

  • hossein sharifi
    2018-11-23 09:08

    'An Angelo for Claudio, death for death'!Haste still pays haste, and leisure answers leisure;Like doth quit like, and Measure still for Measure.Mariana by John Everett Millais (1851). 1. Plot type  Comedy1) Shadow of darkness2) Pressure of darkness3) Everything comes to light2. Claudio is sentenced to death for fornicating (having sexual intercourse) with his girlfriend and getting her pregnant. He is headed for the chopping block if someone doesn't intervene on his behalf.  Conflict 3. Isabella, Claudio's sister, who is about to become a nun leaves the nunnery to save his brother. She plead with Angelo to have mercy.  Complication4. Anglo prepositions Isabella.  Climax Angelo gets all hot and bothered by Isabella virtue and says he will set free Claudio only if Isabella agrees to sleep with him. But she immediately refuses (saying she would rather die) and Angelo gives him time to think.5. The Duke thinks of a plan. Disguised as a Friar, he finds out about Angelo's hypocritical behaviour.  SuspenseComes up to a plan: Isabella should agree to sleep with Angelo, but she will send Angelo ex-fiancé (Mariana) to sleep with him. So Angelo will be forced to marry Mariana; Isabella remains virgin, and Claudio will be free. All's well that ends well!6. Bed trick; Angelo thinks he's slept with Isabella, but in fact, it was Mariana in place of her. At last, Angelo reneges on the deal and orders Claudio to be put to death anywhy. Because he was afraid of Claudio getting revenge.  Dénouement7. Everybody's getting hitched. The Duke finally reveals his Identity and makes everything clear. Claudio is set free and now he can marry Juliet. Angelo is forced to marry Mariana and the Duke himself propose Isabella.  Conclusion

  • Sarah AlObaid
    2018-11-25 12:14

    Not my favorite play by shakespeare but it does open the door for a lot discussion and the sharing of opinions since it revolves around a moral dilemma and deals a lot with the social issues of its time.

  • Ahmad Sharabiani
    2018-11-20 12:25

    Measure for Measure, William Shakespeare

  • Alan
    2018-12-12 12:27

    After reading "Of Spousals" in the Treasure Room of the Harvard Law Library, I wrote two Shakespeare Association of America papers on the handshake spousals-marriages in this play, approved by Judge Henry Swinburne of York Minster, whose courtroom still exists. (See google+ Alan Powers 21x16) Probably more than any other Shakespeare play, Measure for Measure gains immensely from the context in which it appeared. This Ivo Kamps brings to the play with myriad documents from 1604 or thereabouts, such as the Canons of 1604 which established modern marriage--none under age 21 without parental consent. This play about transition in rule appears during England's transition from Queen Elizabeth (I!) to King James (I). Probably the best courtroom scene, and the funniest in all literature, features in Act II.1, where Constable Elbow accuses Mr Froth of trying to seduce his wife, but he gets the legal terms wrong, "My wife, whom I detest before Heaven..."[meaning "attest"] Against his accusation, the clown Pompey, servant to the bawd, defends Mr Froth by using the suspect's face as his witness. Pompey asks the Judge (one of three, as usual in England) if he sees any harm in Froth's face. When the response is NO, Pompey asserts, "I'll swear on a book [the Bible], his face is the worst thing about him..." Hilarious defense, and it works, since Elbow has no counter-evidence. MFM features a substitute ruler who uses his absolute power to pull a Strauss-Kahn or Bill O'Reilly / Cosby (but without the drugs). Angelo, the promoted Deputy, sleeps with a nun who pleads for her condemned brother's life. In delicious plot irony, the brother is condemned for impregnating his girlfriend. Despite the nun's sleeping with him (though a substitute bedmate is supplied, the substitute ruler's former affianced*) the corrupt deputy, Angelo, of angelic exterior, orders the nun's brother executed. But the Good Duke, in disguise as a Friar, saves the brother by substituting the head of a recent prison deceased. In sum, the supposed puritanical reformer Angelo has feet of clay, like so many TV preachers and US politicians, and he himself breaches the reforms he pretends, so that the return of the Good Duke heralds wiser, more indulgent rule, like that of the new Good King. (Of course, James I proved much less indulgent and wise than Shakespeare portrays the Duke at the beginning of the king's reign.) --And I thank the editor for citing me in his intro, one of few names in the text.* Shakespeare could possibly have drawn this "bed-trick" substitution of the betrothed for the lover from Giordano Bruno's Candelaio, where the wife dresses as the lover and substitues herself. I always told my Shakespeare classes that the MFM substitution doesn't say much for Renaissance sex--of course before lighting, evidently even enough to distinguish one woman from another.

  • Jess
    2018-12-16 16:25

    Not one of his best, I think. There's so much scope for moral debate here: the death vs dishonour theme is pretty dominant, namely in Isabella's refusal to give up her virginity to save Claudio, but her decision is never questioned and it should be. Instead Measure for Measure focuses on justice, slander and (of course) marriage. In the end, though, pretty much everyone gets what they deserve, at least in the eyes of the domineering Duke Vincentio, so if I compare it to the other problem play I've read, The Merchant of Venice, this is not as good.I read this instead of King Lear or Macbeth, the other two options, because it appeared in the heartwarming Miss Grimsley's Oxford Career, and because further Googling told me I wanted to have an opinion on the Duke and Isabella. So for intensely analytical and Goodreads-inappropriate reasons I'm about to relay, I'm going to say that (view spoiler)[the Duke proposes not based on love (modern convention), lust (Claudio and Juliet), or duty (Angelo and Mariana, Lucio and Kate), but on finding in each other their equal. So as everyone says, there is basically nowhere in the whole play, until literally the proposals, which suggest any romantic attachment between the Duke and Isabella, and we have to abandon the theory that the marriage proposal comes from love. Less tasteful is the idea that the Duke feels he is duty-bound to provide for Isabella, after dishing out sentences for all those men who dishonoured women, because in a metaphorical sense the Duke has made Isabella impure through the bed-trick, provoking slander against her. But the language is reluctant to support that, because in a shockingly romantic twist, the Duke tells Isabella: "What's mine is yours, and what is yours is mine." He isn't saving her from a life of shame and this isn't a pity marriage, like Mariana and Kate get. I'd even speculate that Isabella went into a convent because no guy was good enough to marry: judging by the sample in the play, it seems a valid interpretation. (hide spoiler)]Obviously, it's Shakespeare, so the characters are brilliant and the language is a dream. Lots of carnal imagery, of course, my favourite being from Angelo to Isabella: "Fit thy consent to my sharp appetite". (Isabella proves herself to be a classic, awesome Shakespeare heroine when she steals that and changes the context, with: "I'll... fit his mind to death, for his soul's rest.") With that in mind, I think I can defend a four star rating.

  • Stephen Cobb
    2018-12-11 08:19

    I can't believe I made it 51 years on this earth without encountering Measure for Measure. Perhaps it's for the best: the mature theme of how to discern and judge justly is weighty with the cycles of human development .. it helps to have a few grey hairs to have lived through the many perspectives that Shakespeare offers through his characters.Perhaps we shouldn't mark the beginning of modern psychology with Freud. Shakespeare has the best character analysis of any modern thinker I know.

  • Jasmine
    2018-11-22 08:19

    Just another piece of homework for Contemporary British Theatre class. I watched one of the productions and it was a drama about justice and virtue. Also had an issue regarding the purity of humanity. I do appreciate different forms of art. :)

  • Rachel (Kalanadi)
    2018-12-05 15:13

    3.5 stars

  • Ariel
    2018-11-18 08:11

    So, this ended up being AWESOME! I'm kind of disappointed that I'd never heard of this play before, and that this isn't one of Shakespeare's giant plays!I found the plot of this story a lot more exciting than other Shakespeare's I've read (Tempest I'm looking at you) and I thought that the moral dilemmas and questions where a lot more interesting than other Shakespeare's I've read (Twelfth Night you're a let down).I think I know why it isn't so big though. For the same reasons I didn't give it 5 stars, maybe. That it was pretty preachy, and that it seemed to present a lot more issues than it answered which was frustrating.I liked it though! I really really liked it and I'm glad that it was required reading for one of my courses because otherwise when would I have heard of it?!

  • Annika
    2018-11-23 11:14

    The end reminded me a lot of Much Ado About Nothing, but it was still very good. Not my favorite Shakespeare, but as great as everything by him.

  • Milly
    2018-11-24 13:18

    This is probably my favorite Shakespeare work. Granted, I could do without Launcelot and the plot line isn't always logical, but by and large Measure is a superb mix of the satirical and poetic. A true "problem play", the give-and-take between comedy and tragedy makes the work rich and complex in a way that you don't find with more easily categorized works. Imperfect authority passing judgment on the imperfections of others, secular flaws and desires shielded behind the authority of spirituality... It makes me sad that this is so often passed over.

  • Cindy Rollins
    2018-11-15 15:03

    Shakespeare answers the question what is self-righteousness and how do we deal with it and I think he answers the question with grace and humor. The plot revolves around this good and "just" man who signs up for Ashley Madison never realizing his employer is monitoring his computer. In the end he is punished by having to marry his betrothed. Fair dealing for the betrothed in that culture. It always seems to me that Shakespeare has a fair amount of respect for women and even goodness and a fair assessment of humanity to boot.